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		<title>By: richard</title>
		<link>http://www.photografica.com.au/iblog/photography/dam-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-191</link>
		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 08:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well maybe &quot;completely different&quot; is a bit of an exaggeration, but I&#039;m prone to exaggerate. When I&#039;m travelling for example I take a lot of what I call stock photos. The idea is to capture meta data on location as quickly and as accurately as possible (street names, buildings etc). For this I want a fast file browser that is capable of this (Photomechanic, Breezebrowser etc), and I also want to cull at the time, because I will take many (too many) images. I don&#039;t want to have to import them into lightroom and then do all this stuff. However if I&#039;m in &quot;art photography&quot; mood, I&#039;m probably looking for an image or two to target at a print, so location metadata is not important (all my images will probably share this) so I don&#039;t need the file browser software - it doesn&#039;t apply to my workflow. Similarly as an &quot;art photographer&quot; producing prints I probably have different finished product requirements (different print sizes, formats etc) so my cataloguing process has to take this into account because I will likely want to find items on a different basis than my stock photos</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well maybe &#8220;completely different&#8221; is a bit of an exaggeration, but I&#8217;m prone to exaggerate. When I&#8217;m travelling for example I take a lot of what I call stock photos. The idea is to capture meta data on location as quickly and as accurately as possible (street names, buildings etc). For this I want a fast file browser that is capable of this (Photomechanic, Breezebrowser etc), and I also want to cull at the time, because I will take many (too many) images. I don&#8217;t want to have to import them into lightroom and then do all this stuff. However if I&#8217;m in &#8220;art photography&#8221; mood, I&#8217;m probably looking for an image or two to target at a print, so location metadata is not important (all my images will probably share this) so I don&#8217;t need the file browser software &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t apply to my workflow. Similarly as an &#8220;art photographer&#8221; producing prints I probably have different finished product requirements (different print sizes, formats etc) so my cataloguing process has to take this into account because I will likely want to find items on a different basis than my stock photos</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 09:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;The workflow for a sports or press photographic is going to be completely different from a documentary photographer or an art photographer.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Richard, I don&#039;t see why. The process of downloading, renaming, adding basic metadata such as copyright and keywords, and then going through them and evaluating, ranking and sorting and finally converting to dng and backing up is a workflow process that should be common to all photographers the way I see it. After that stage I imagine a different focus might be applied by different photographers, depending on their output needs, but don&#039;t you think the initial work flow is going to be (or at least should be) roughly the same for everyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>The workflow for a sports or press photographic is going to be completely different from a documentary photographer or an art photographer.</p></blockquote>
<p>Richard, I don&#8217;t see why. The process of downloading, renaming, adding basic metadata such as copyright and keywords, and then going through them and evaluating, ranking and sorting and finally converting to dng and backing up is a workflow process that should be common to all photographers the way I see it. After that stage I imagine a different focus might be applied by different photographers, depending on their output needs, but don&#8217;t you think the initial work flow is going to be (or at least should be) roughly the same for everyone?</p>
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		<title>By: richard</title>
		<link>http://www.photografica.com.au/iblog/photography/dam-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-188</link>
		<dc:creator>richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2007 17:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bit late with this!

First of all I think people should concentrate on their workflow and processes. Previously the software was rather thin on the ground and limited so you couldn&#039;t match it to your workflow. For this reason I think a lot of people&#039;s workflows were driven by the software - they got a program or 3, and their processes becaome what they could do with those programs. Now I think the software is mature, and you no longer have to compromise, or work with umpteen separate programs. The worklow for a sports or press photographic is going to be completely different from a documentary photographer or an art photographer. So look at how you work, or should work, from capture through initial sorting, cataloguing and archiving. Then choose the software that you need to accomplish these goals. Without contradicting myself, let me say that I think Lightroom has changed things quite dramatically, but you need a photobrowser to supplement it. DNG is also core in my opinion. I&#039;m half way through this process, and may do a little series of blogs on what I have found useful if I have time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bit late with this!</p>
<p>First of all I think people should concentrate on their workflow and processes. Previously the software was rather thin on the ground and limited so you couldn&#8217;t match it to your workflow. For this reason I think a lot of people&#8217;s workflows were driven by the software &#8211; they got a program or 3, and their processes becaome what they could do with those programs. Now I think the software is mature, and you no longer have to compromise, or work with umpteen separate programs. The worklow for a sports or press photographic is going to be completely different from a documentary photographer or an art photographer. So look at how you work, or should work, from capture through initial sorting, cataloguing and archiving. Then choose the software that you need to accomplish these goals. Without contradicting myself, let me say that I think Lightroom has changed things quite dramatically, but you need a photobrowser to supplement it. DNG is also core in my opinion. I&#8217;m half way through this process, and may do a little series of blogs on what I have found useful if I have time.</p>
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		<title>By: Geoff</title>
		<link>http://www.photografica.com.au/iblog/photography/dam-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-110</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 07:53:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d be curious to hear your methods Richard. I&#039;m finding the Dam book a revelation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d be curious to hear your methods Richard. I&#8217;m finding the Dam book a revelation.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.photografica.com.au/iblog/photography/dam-part-2/comment-page-1/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He he ... just going through the process of post-managing many thousands of images myself. I postponed the effort because I wasn&#039;t quite sure exactly how I wanted the catalogue to be organised, and compounded by having a mixture of analogue and digital files... as you say, don&#039;t wait. Once you have some kind of catalogue in place it makes refinement much easier.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He he &#8230; just going through the process of post-managing many thousands of images myself. I postponed the effort because I wasn&#8217;t quite sure exactly how I wanted the catalogue to be organised, and compounded by having a mixture of analogue and digital files&#8230; as you say, don&#8217;t wait. Once you have some kind of catalogue in place it makes refinement much easier.</p>
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